| Environment Agency Wales welcomes the opportunity
to comment on the above consultation.
At the outset, our comments are made against the background
of the recent Financial Management and Policy Review
of the Environment Agency for England and Wales. Such
reviews are carried out every five years. Their purpose
is to assist in the improvement and modernisation of
public services by external scrutiny, catalysing change
and improvement to ensure that organisations fit into
the bigger picture of the Modernising government initiatives.
The last FMPR for the Agency was completed early in
2002. Furthermore, in acknowledgement that devolution
is an evolving process we should like to draw specific
attention to some of the ways that environmental policy
is developing differently between Westminster and Cardiff.
Primarily this difference flows from the Assemblys
statutory duty relating to sustainable development.
The characteristic is recognised within the Agency and
we conduct our business accordingly.
Turning to the specific questions contained in the
consultation paper, we comment using the same notation
as your document.
Question 1
In what practical ways do the powers of the Assembly,
or the limits on its powers, impinge on you, your organisation
or the people whom you serve and what are the best examples
of this from your point of view
The Environment Agency appreciates the close working
relationship between Ministers and officials at the
Assembly and our staff. These relationships underpin
the joined up (Team Wales) approach that
the Assembly advocates in developing the agenda for
the Government. Such accessibility has allowed the Assembly
to tailor, with the support of the Agency, policies
and strategies that meet the environmental priorities
of Wales.
We would draw your attention to the Wales Waste Strategy
as a positive example where the National Assembly has
taken the lead and set the direction for developing
sustainable waste management practices.
The Agency has a number of powers and duties under
different legislation. Within such legislation the UK
governments also have duties and powers such as, for
example, an Appellant role, the power to issue Directions,
the power to "call in" decisions. Depending on the legislation
these powers can reside with Westminster or Cardiff.
The choice sometimes appears arbitrary. For example,
the powers under the Radioactive Substances Act 1993
lie with the Assembly but the powers under the Control
of Major Accidents and Hazards (COMAH) is with Westminster.
In some cases equivalent powers change when legislation
is replaced. The powers under Part I of the Environment
Protection Act (EPA) 1990 were transferred to the Assembly,
however, as EPA90 regulations are being replaced by
regulations under the Pollution Prevention and Control
Act 1999 the equivalent powers revert to Westminster.
Both these Acts control pollution from industry and
it is arguable that that there has been an erosion of
the Assemblys powers. Where an Act whose powers
have been transferred to the Assembly is replaced by
a new Act then the equivalent powers under the new Act
should be in general transferred to the Assembly.
The Agency also contributes to the achievement of Sustainable
Development. The National Assembly has a duty to make
a scheme setting out how it proposes, in the exercise
of its function , to promote Sustainable Development.
Environment Agency Wales greatly values the Assembly's
SD Scheme since it provides a framework for contributing
to a sustainable Wales. Through working with the Assembly
and its partners we are able to enhance the social and
economic benefits arising from our environmental programme.
We can also help others to realise environmental benefits
arising from their social and economic programmes. This
duty is diluted by some of the more significant planning
decisions resting in Westminster e.g. any electricity
generating development capable of supplying more than
50 megawatts of electrical power must have planning
permission from the Department of Trade and Industry
(regulation 36 of the Electricity Act) but how electricity
is generated has a significant effect on Sustainable
Development. It is however appreciated that aspects
of national energy policy need a holistic England and
Wales approach.
As an England and Wales body we deal on a regular basis
with both the Countryside Council For Wales (CCW) and
English Nature (EN). Whereas EN has Public Service Agreement
(PSA)Targets, such targets do not apply to CCW. An example
of such targets is PSA Target 3: Care for our natural
heritage, make the countryside attractive and enjoyable
for all and preserve biological diversity which
requires bringing into favourable condition by 2010
95 per cent of all nationally important wildlife sites
(SSSIs).
Similarly linked to conservation activities is the
difference between England and Wales in the Conservation
Regulations. Amendments made to the Regulations in England
in 2000 gave candidate Special Areas of Conservation
(cSACs) legal status while in Wales similar amendments
were not made. A recent consultation by the Assembly
on amendments to the Regulations would further increase
the difference between England and Wales.
This divergence affords less protection for the environment
in Wales and could undermine the achievement by the
UK of European requirements. While the Agency implements
the Regulations for all its activities relevant to European
sites as a matter of policy, this may not be the case
with other Competent and Relevant Authorities and damage
may occur before sites are designated. Further differences
between England and Wales will raise issues for Competent
Authorities and owner/occupiers with respect to cross
border sites. This will be a particular issue for Competent
Authorities, such as the Agency, which operate in both
England and Wales, in maintaining consistency across
the organisation in policy and process for implementing
the Regulations. It is however appreciated that the
Assembly will have to manage the potential increased
risk of infraction proceedings which greater divergence
may bring.
Questions 2 and 3
Does the Government of Wales Act provide the Assembly
with the powers it needs to operate effectively and
meet the expectations of the people of Wales?
Whether, and if so how, the powers should be extended,
strengthened or changed, and whether they should include
tax varying powers.
It is our experience that devolution has allowed the
Agency to develop its policies and work activities in
line with the environmental priorities of Wales. This
has been a positive step as it means we can ensure that
the needs of Wales are met, while, as a Wales and England
body, we can achieve economies of scale and exploit
the expertise which lies in centres of expertise in
Wales and England for deployment across both countries.
(Such centres include: for Air Quality monitoring; salmonid
fisheries; groundwater and contaminated land, and nuclear
regulation.)
Please refer to our response to Question 1 concerning
examples of where current powers need to be clarified.
Questions 4 and 5
If the Assembly were to acquire greater law making
powers is it inevitable that it would need to
be reconstituted on the Parliamentary model?
If so what organisational changes would be needed to
support this model and what would be the gains and losses
from making this change?
Much of the environmental legislation that is administered
by the Agency arises from Brussels and influence is
needed there if a particular Wales interest is to be
protected or enhanced. This is part of the Agencys
key role in advising Government in seeking to influence
European policy. The importance of MEPs should not be
overlooked and environmental Directives that are having
or will have an impact on the people and economy of
Wales include the Habitats Directive, Water Framework
Directive, Pollution Prevention and Control Directive,
the Waster Framework Directive and the Landfill Directive.
Law making and ensuring there is a level playing
field for business is a European issue and not
just a matter between Cardiff and Westminster.
As an England and Wales body the Agency deals with
cross boundary issues such as navigation, water abstraction,
waste management, air pollution and flood defences.
These all require effective ways of working between
the National Assembly, DEFRA and the Agency and any
changes in powers between Westminster and Cardiff should
incorporate mechanisms that enhance co-operation and
consistency of standards. A recent case involving clinical
waste demonstrated the free flow of waste across the
England and Wales border and the problems this can create.
Question 6
How effective has the Assembly been in influencing
UK Government policy making in relation to Wales
what are the practical examples which illustrate the
strengths and weaknesses of the process?
There are limited examples to date within the environmental
field but we would again refer you to the Wales Waste
Strategy as positive progress. What we can say, however,
is that we receive additional grant in aid that supports
priorities specific to Wales that are not duplicated
in England and that our experience can be shared with
colleagues in England.
As mentioned earlier, law making and policy development
requires a high level of technical and scientific understanding
and for the Assembly to develop more separate policies
will require additional resources to match the high
level of expertise required.
Questions 7, 8 and 9
What are the advantages and disadvantages in principle
of having a law making process which is shared between
Cardiff and Westminster and what are the respective
contribution of AMs, MPs and Peers?
What would be gained or lost if powers to make fundamental
policy changes through primary legislation were passed
from Westminster to Cardiff.
How would Welsh interests be affected if the role of
Welsh MPs were to be reduced as a consequence of the
acquisition of primary law making powers by the National
Assembly?
Of these three questions, Question 8 dealing with the
transfer of primary legislative powers is most relevant
to the Agency. It is important to recognise that the
environment itself is not divided along political boundaries
and is often drawn from a European level. Under the
existing arrangements the Agency can deliver similar
policies with any differences being around relative
priorities. Should there be a separation between Westminster
and Cardiff, we would need effective formal mechanisms
for working and reporting across boundaries.
Modern law making is very complex and for environmental
legislation to be effective it requires a solid underpinning
with good quality technical, scientific and legal advice.
The Environment Agency supports the Welsh Assembly Government
with technical and legal advice drawn from its England
and Wales experience and depth of technical expertise.
when laws and policies are being proposed or amended.
This response would need to be significantly increased
if it was to support a primary legislative process.
We would have some reservations about the possible development
of a different corpus of primary law in Wales because
it would add significant complexity to the resolution
and management of environmental media and problems for
which the political boundary is irrelevant. This would
manifest itself most strongly in the law on the water
environment.
Question 10
How would Welsh interests be affected if the Secretary
of States role was reduced as a consequence of
the acquisition of primary law making powers by the
Assembly?
This may be an opportunity to clarify and reinforce
the respective roles of the Secretary of State for Wales,
the Assembly and the Secretary of State in for the Environment,
Food and Rural Affairs regarding appeals etc
under environmental legislation.
Question 11
What would be gained or lost if there was a clearer
separation between England and Wales in policy development
and implementation?
Our experience to date has shown that clearer separation
in this context can be useful in certain instances e.g.
the Wales Waste Strategy. This has shown that Wales
only environmental initiatives can progress expeditiously
without the need for an England and Wales approach.
Nevertheless, with respect to, for example, water and
air quality issues, there has to be the introduction
of consistent standards across borders especially where
this has an impact on industry and competition. We would
draw specific attention to the introduction of the Water
Framework Directive where a consistency of approach
is essential, and environmental protection and improvement
is dependent on integrated river basin management: several
river basins span the England and Wales border.
Questions 12 and 13
How should we evaluate the costs and benefits of moving
to a different form of devolution in Wales?
What are the benefits which should be included in this
evaluation and what values should be attached
to them?
Any examination should take into account the cost of
such arrangements, the impacts on business and the integrity
of on-going protection and improvement of the environment.
The Environment Agency as a Wales and England body provides
opportunities to share best practice, derive technical
guidance efficiently and allocate resources according
to environmental need. Further separation of powers
could lead to separate charging regimes and policies
for example in relation to environmental regulation.
There could therefore be adverse implications for business
in Wales because the large numbers of Small and Medium
Sized Enterprises and the agricultural businesses would
create a different charging profile. This could result
in higher costs on vulnerable business sectors. The
Agencys charging regime aims to provide a level
playing for business sectors on an England and Wales
basis. With the exception of water abstraction, the
charging regimes do not vary between England and Wales
but there is a cost/income variance. The costs of undertaking
environmental protection in Wales is around £2m more
than income from charges and is effectively subsidised
from England. Should new environmental protection legislation
be established in Wales, any deficit that existed would
have to be made up. New charging schemes would also
need to be drawn up. It is almost inevitable that this
would result in differential charges in the two countries
or a subsidy from National Assembly for Wales. Similarly
Flood Defence levies would be impacted if the committee
structures changed to the political boundaries in Wales.
Increased levies would be in the order of £1.5m.
Question 14
Funding Streams - is this an issue for you or your
organisation if so what have been the practical
problems and how might they be resolved?
Our response to questions 12 and 13 identifies the
issues of funding subsidy from England to Wales on Environmental
Protection (£2m). Flood Defence levies would be impacted
if the committee structures changed to the political
boundaries in Wales. Increased levies would be in the
order of £1.5m.
The Environment Agency does have issues with funding
streams and would like to see a rationalisation of the
Agencys funding framework to allow us to increase
the effectiveness of the Agency and enhance our ability
to deliver a modern and preventative approach to environmental
management. The Agency has 70 funding ring fences which
gives difficulties in England and Wales on:-
- lack of flexibility to deploy resources to best
environmental and geographical effect
- pulling in a direction opposite to integrated environmental
management
- maintaining the integrity of the ring fences consumes
significant resources
The Agency would like to see greater flexibility in
the way in which we can deploy our resources, whilst
observing the requirements for the accountability and
transparency to Government sponsors and charge payers.
This would include developing incentive based charges
which go beyond cost recovery and which encourage responsible
environmental behaviour and the "right" balance of funding
between charge income and grant-in-aid.
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