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RESPONSE FROM POWYS ASSOCIATION OF VOLUNTARY ORGANISATIONS TO THE RICHARD COMMISSION CONSULTATION DOCUMENT ON THE POWERS OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY 17 FEBRUARY 2003 

The consultation event was held with members of the Voluntary Sector in Powys.  For the Voluntary Sector the consultative paper led to the main questions:
1.  What are the pluses and minuses from having an Assembly for Wales?
2.  Funding?
3.  Present Powers of the Assembly and if increases:  what mechanisms in Wales

a.   If Local Authorities has increased power to deliver?

b.  Voluntary Sector Scheme/Partnership Council/meetings with AM's?

PLUSES
Assembly gives Wales identity
Intimacy with AMs - people making decisions (but too 'cosy'?)
Consultation process
How far can go will this go?  Seems dependent on funding
Ministers dominant to civil servants (new posts)
Funding -  own funds
               Funding "pots" to Voluntary Sector (but random and in some areas to
               Local Authority) eg YPP - but went to Local Authority first
Partnership  >  who takes lead?
Move to encourage Welsh organisations/charities
                            Welsh branches/autonomy
Concessionary fare for pensioners (more radical)
Appropriate scale for Wales in certain activities (but lack of clarity of what goes where)
Minuses
Lost the Assembly initial vision > open, inclusive > communication
Not delivered - increased powers = increased taxes
Not good enough administratively - not developed, not robust enough
Not local decision making
Not realised non-confrontational approach - just 'Micro Westminster', more consensual cost (only works at moment as Labour majority) abandoned original vision - WAG now (word "Government" crept into title)
Question:  If only going to duplicate Westminster:  do we need it?
Question:  Scottish model?  Different because different legal system
Transport - in England - 'Quango', in Wales - Local Authority
Increase in elected representatives > who do public write to?
Running UK organisations in Wales eg Institute of Rural Health
Not Wales/England split > concern will relocate in England
+
UK bodies : Wales representative is tokenistic
(being Welsh has become a 'minority')
Linked to above:  Honours system : can propose Welsh, but not if living in England 
Funding - more pro-active approaches required
Community Strategy - need funds clearly made accessible to make it happen
ELWa - "disaster", in terms of new organisation and establishment of working relationships + over the top bureaucracy in terms of monitoring and evaluation eg if LA evening class tutors going private to avoid it.
Timescales
Question:  If Home Office function was devolved - concern that there would be danger if

segregated? - advantage = national skills

Question:  What about organisations like the Welsh Consumer Council >

'hybrid' but accountable to DTI?

POWER
Too early to review - the Assembly needs to prove itself first (too many strategies)
Wales moving towards regional "local", but how does this fit with European legislation?
Got enough power/or not enough power -

The logic of devolved power is over everything (police etc.  Home Office) and devolve all

(except Foreign Office & Treasury)

This is pointing to more Federal - devolution to the maximum
Would help to have funds specific to Wales (Community Fund for Wales and own criteria)
Question:  Breadth of power?  Agreed to extend to cover all other areas
OR:
But asking about power re:  primary legislation eg Local Health Boards had to go to Westminster and were seen as a low priority because only relevant to Wales. 
Powers re: primary legislation would save such trouble and no longer dependent but we would beed Welsh Legal System (hugh expense/bureaucracy costs).
Or rather than extension:  is it sorting out/confusion?  eg Foot and Mouth eg GM crops (MAFF and DEFRA)
2nd House/Chamber? Needed?
Suggestion:  Standing committee to regularly review and monitor exercise of power.
If powers of Assembly are extended > on road to finally having legislative powers.
How will centralised power sit with local democracy?
There is an argument for Welsh MP's - to ensure Welsh element is represented at Westminster and respected but there is the need for better understanding.
Flexibility of funding, allowing Wales to make decisions, to meet Welsh needs eg Welsh National Stadium - with the need for extra funding.
But there is a danger and risk if there is the separation from England eg in NHS > recruitment.  If Wales only leads to 

budgets smaller              )
less flexible                   )   - 2nd class nation
lost senior management )

and probable same effect on staffing in LA's?