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Wales Council of the Co-operative Party

Cyngor Cymru y Blaid Gydweithredol

Response to the Commission on the Powers and Electoral Arrangement of the National Assembly for Wales
The Co-operative Party welcomes this opportunity to contribute to the Commission’s review of the Powers and Electoral Arrangements of the National Assembly for Wales.
The Co-operative Party promotes policies that promote co-operative ideals and values. The Co-operative Party has an active group of Co-operative Party AMs and engages positively with the National Assembly for Wales on the development of policies that improve the communities of Wales and encapsulate co-operative ideals.
The Co-operative Party does not wish to see additional powers for the National Assembly at this time.
CONSULTATION QUESTIONS
ARE THE POWERS OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE NEEDS OF WALES
Q. Does the Government of Wales Act provide the Assembly with the powers it needs to operate effectively and meet the expectations of the people of Wales?
R. The Government of Wales Act devolves power to Wales in a manner that makes it extremely difficult to determine the precise powers of the Assembly. This situation is likely to become worse as more primary and secondary legislation is passed in Westminster and Wales.
The unclear distribution of responsibility between Westminster and Wales makes it less likely that the expectations of the people of Wales, whatever those expectations are, will be met.
Q. Whether, and how, the powers should be extended, strengthened or changed and whether they should include tax-varying powers?
R. The National Assembly does not need tax varying powers.
Tax-varying powers are unlikely to be of practical use to the National Assembly and therefore the National Assembly does not need them.
STRUCTURE AND WORKING ARRANGEMENTS OF THE NATIONAL ASSEMBLY
Q. If the Assembly were to acquire greater law making powers – is it inevitable that it would need to be reconstituted on the Parliamentary model?
R. The Parliamentary model is probably the only model that would work most quickly in producing effective legislation.
If the Parliamentary model were adopted there would need to be significant increase in resource available to all aspects of the National Assembly:
1) Welsh Assembly Government
2) National Assembly Committees
3) Presiding Office
to allow for the detailed drafting and scrutiny of proposed legislation.
Q. What organisational changes would be needed to support this model and what would be the gains and losses from making this change?
The gains from the changes would in theory be legislation that was more in keeping with the needs of Wales than legislation generated in Westminster. The losses from making this change would be the significant increase in the cost of operating the National Assembly for Wales with little public perception of benefit.
THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE ASSEMBLY IN CARDIFF AND THE PARLIAMENT AT WESTMINSTER
How effective has the Assembly been in influencing UK Government policy making in relation to Wales – what are the practical examples, which illustrate the strengths and weaknesses of the process?
The answer to this question can be assessed partly by looking at what pieces of legislation proposed by the Welsh Assembly Government have been accepted by the UK Government for inclusion in the UK legislative process.
The Welsh Assembly Government has managed to place one Wales only Bill in the legislative programme 2002/2003 and 2003/2004 out of a request for 12 items. This reflects a poor level of response to Welsh demands by the UK government and indicates a significant level of weakness in the process.
Other examples include the failure in certain instances of the Welsh Assembly Government to have Welsh only clauses included in England and Wales Bills.
What are the advantages and disadvantages in principle of having a law making process, which is shared between Cardiff and Westminster and what are the respective contributions of AMs, MPs and Peers?
The disadvantage of having a split law making process is that the time taken to make law is likely to increase. The likelihood of making poor law is likely to increase. Deficiencies in the law making process for Wales have been identified with scrutiny at Westminster concentrating on matters relating to England with little regard given to matters that relate to Wales on the mistaken assumption that the National Assembly will deal with those matters. The National Assembly as presently constituted is an ineffective scrutiny body with AMs realising only slowly that the most important role of AMs is scrutiny of legislation, not policy development.
Welsh MPs need to have a strong role in the scrutiny of legislation that affects Wales and a good working relationship with the National Assembly for Wales Committees and the Welsh Assembly Government so that scrutiny can be as effective as possible. The roles of the Welsh Affairs Select Committee and the Welsh Grand Committee should be expanded to allow for more effective scrutiny at Westminster.
What would be gained or lost if powers to make fundamental policy changes through primary legislation were passed from Westminster to Cardiff?
In reality the use of primary legislative powers would be limited to changes that were broadly cost neutral, as the Assembly is not able to raise its own taxes. The area of gain would be in clarity and consistency of legislation and of legislation that fitted more appropriately with the needs of Wales.
The transfer of primary legislative powers to Wales would have economic benefits in that the skill base required in Wales would increase and would be a boost to the already well developing legal and professional services sector in Wales.
How would Welsh interests be affected if the role of Welsh MPs were to the reduced as a consequence of the acquisition of primary law making powers by the National Assembly?
The transfer of primary law making powers to the National Assembly does not necessitate the reduction in the role of Welsh MPs. The limits of the devolution settlement means that there is still a significant and important role for Welsh MPs in helping determine matters that affect England and Wales and the wider United Kingdom.
THE ROLE OF THE UK GOVERNMENT AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE FOR WALES
How would Welsh interests be affected if the Secretary of State’s role were reduced as a consequence of the acquisition of primary law making powers by the Assembly?
The Secretary of State has effectively two roles,
1) Representing the interests of Wales in the UK Cabinet
2) Assisting in the passage of Welsh legislation in the UK Parliament
If primary law making powers were transferred to the Assembly then there would be a reduction of the role of the Secretary for State for Wales and the Wales Office in assisting with the passage of Welsh Legislation in the UK Parliament. The need for the Secretary of State for Wales to represent Wales in the UK Cabinet would remain.
What would be gained or lost if there was a clearer separation between England and Wales in policy development and implementation?
If there were a clearer separation between England and Wales in policy development and implementation there would be a gain in being able to compare the success or failure of different policy initiatives between nations. Provided that Wales does not always take the inferior policy option, on balance there should be a nett policy improvement over time.
THE FINANCIAL CONTEXT
How should we evaluate the costs and benefits of moving to a different form of devolution in Wales?
If devolution is to be a success in Wales the people of Wales must see a benefit in the economic and social well being of themselves and their families that they can easily attribute to the National Assembly for Wales. If the National Assembly cannot develop to a stage where the people of Wales are aware and proud of its real achievements then there is no purpose in changing the form of devolution. All changes to the devolution settlement must be assessed on how they materially benefit the individuals of Wales.
What are the benefits that should be included in this evaluation - and what values should be attached to them?
The benefits that should be measured are:
Economic well-being
Social justice
Transparency of governance
For any queries relating to this response please contact
Karen Wilkie
National Organiser, Wales & Local Government
The Co-operative Party
Transport House
1 Cathedral Road
Cardiff
CF11 9HA
tel. 029 2022 6454
fax. 029 2066 7254